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	<title>Comments on: Free software advocacy for the VCS</title>
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		<title>By: Phil Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.freecharity.org.uk/2007/05/29/free-software-advocacy-for-the-vcs/#comment-1542</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 11:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is also the issue of awareness of vendors beyond the one who provided the desktop operating system. A recent discussion about collaboration focussed on Microsoft Groove (a virtually unknown product) and completely failed to mention Lotus Notes - one of the most widespread collaboration products. Notes also costs less than half what Groove costs for a retail desktop licence.

One circuit rider list contributor said he "offer solutions based on your qualifications and experience", I wonder if the "needs of the client" sometimes go missing.

Is the VCS being offered the choice of the full range of proprietary and open source solutions ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is also the issue of awareness of vendors beyond the one who provided the desktop operating system. A recent discussion about collaboration focussed on Microsoft Groove (a virtually unknown product) and completely failed to mention Lotus Notes - one of the most widespread collaboration products. Notes also costs less than half what Groove costs for a retail desktop licence.</p>
<p>One circuit rider list contributor said he &#8220;offer solutions based on your qualifications and experience&#8221;, I wonder if the &#8220;needs of the client&#8221; sometimes go missing.</p>
<p>Is the VCS being offered the choice of the full range of proprietary and open source solutions ?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.freecharity.org.uk/2007/05/29/free-software-advocacy-for-the-vcs/#comment-1530</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 20:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on, there are a few points here that have made me think about my own actions; this is advice I will definatley be taking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on, there are a few points here that have made me think about my own actions; this is advice I will definatley be taking.</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Campbell</title>
		<link>http://www.freecharity.org.uk/2007/05/29/free-software-advocacy-for-the-vcs/#comment-1529</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 18:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent - a well thought out and mature response that could lead to people using at least some Open Source for all the right reasons. 

Most so called 'Microsoft Advocates' are happy to look at Open Source as at least a partual solution but see no adventage to themselves or their clients in limiting their choices purely because someone else declares it to be an 'ethical' choice...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent - a well thought out and mature response that could lead to people using at least some Open Source for all the right reasons. </p>
<p>Most so called &#8216;Microsoft Advocates&#8217; are happy to look at Open Source as at least a partual solution but see no adventage to themselves or their clients in limiting their choices purely because someone else declares it to be an &#8216;ethical&#8217; choice&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jOHN rOSE</title>
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		<dc:creator>jOHN rOSE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 16:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very reasoned and reasonable, James.
The one thing that puts me off using Open Office rather than Office is that I've 'developed' some stuff in Excel using VBA and they don't work on Open Office. (OK, I can't be sked to transalate them....)
Also, not sure if things like the Morefunc and ASAP Utilities add-ins (both of which I use) work in Open Office.
So honesty requires that folk advocating OO first check that stuff the organisation already has is compatible, or can be made to be compatible.
I don't do databases but there may be an issue with Access, too.
You're right: organisations use software to do jobs and achieve outcomes, not to be racist about Redmond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very reasoned and reasonable, James.<br />
The one thing that puts me off using Open Office rather than Office is that I&#8217;ve &#8216;developed&#8217; some stuff in Excel using VBA and they don&#8217;t work on Open Office. (OK, I can&#8217;t be sked to transalate them&#8230;.)<br />
Also, not sure if things like the Morefunc and ASAP Utilities add-ins (both of which I use) work in Open Office.<br />
So honesty requires that folk advocating OO first check that stuff the organisation already has is compatible, or can be made to be compatible.<br />
I don&#8217;t do databases but there may be an issue with Access, too.<br />
You&#8217;re right: organisations use software to do jobs and achieve outcomes, not to be racist about Redmond.</p>
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